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Who makes the rules for Zoroastrianism?

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Did the Persians who lived during the days of Zoroaster practice the religion exactly the same way as we do today? The more I read and understand our religion the more evidence comes out that its not true.

So how did we get to a state of getting acceptance where what we practice today is now part of the mainstream religion. Its quite obvious that a lot of the ceremonies that the Parsis follow in India are heavily influenced by Western Indian culture. The same goes for the Zoroastrians in Iran today that have a heavy Middle-Eastern influence on what they practice as religion today. So what leads to that tipping point where something that is alien to our religion then starts getting accepted as part of the religion? Since we dont have a worldwide central religious authority for Zoroastrianism, it seems like these changes must have come from organic growth of a practice and then its ultimate acceptance as mainstream.

This leads me to the topic that I saw being discussed recently on two seperate email threads. Not one of those mass mailing threads but rather a small private distribution. One of them had been initiated by a very elderly gentleman and trying to find out how he can get his now adult son accepted into the Zoroastrian religion since he was married to a non-Parsi. The email was sent to a self-proclaimed leading authority on the religion. I felt rather sorry becuase here was a very elderly gentleman trying to see how he could get his son who wants to practice the religion into the Z fold. The other thread was started by one of my family friends trying to discuss the acceptance of children born out of a Parsi/Non-Parsi wedding into the religion.

Isnt it funny that these folks were actually asking for opinions, when its funny that even my dog has an opinion. This is our religion people, dont let egotistic self-proclaimed knowledge bearers tell you what to do.

Atleast in matters of religion just go ahead and do what your heart says is right. My heart says that no God or his prophet in his right mind would have ever said that “we are a class apart, so you cannot be us but we can be you if we want to”. Imagine teachings being seen through a spyglass that spans 2000 - 3000 years. The amount of distortion is enormous.

Lets just go ahead and keep doing the right thing till the tipping point is reached and it becomes part of mainstream.

Think about it the next time someone asks you, what do you think can folks married outside our religion still be Zoroastrians?


Lage Raho Kissing Car

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Recently watched this movie “Lage Raho Munnabhai”. After a long time this was a original Hindi comedy movie, what a breath of fresh air. Well the reason we wanted to write about the movie was the portrayal of the Parsi guy. We loved the character and the reality it reflected (the thing about him wanting to go back to his teenage girlfriend who was a non-Parsi). Gone was the pheta sporting comic Parsi bawaji with pretty wife on arm scooting around in a Jalopy with wife flirting with strangers (read hero she met on the road). This was a well played character with some very good nuances like the Kissing Car story (very much like how Parsis keep their cars … like second wives) and how he scoffs Sanjay Dutt when he takes the car for a ride but forgets to lock it when done.

Anyways if you’ve not seen the movie, we highly recommend it. Not for the Parsi guy, but just cause its a nice light hearted comedy that’s hit the Hindi movie screen after a while.


Goodbye 2006 .. Welcome 2007

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So now that the celebrations for the New Year are done its time to sit down and think of the year ahead and the year that we lived through. 06 was a good year, after all it was in this year that after so much procrastination we finally decided to put together ParsiWorld. It wouldnt have been possible without the support and ideas from our family members and some of our early adopters and we want to thank you all for that.

As we look to the new year there are lots of ideas, contributions and suggestions from all over. So it surely looks exciting and we are ready for the ride. Keep on reading and contributing.

 


Back online …

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We were out travelling for the last few weeks and had made a conscious decision to not get online unless it was an emergency. Good to be unplugged once in a while I guess. Well our travels took us to India of other places and we had a blast out there. Life is zooming out there and the Z community seems to be doing well … now if only we can start reversing the birth/death spiral. Who says we’re a dying community, you should go talk to some of our young ones.

Noticed that the site had a lot of junk posted all over and a lot of irrelevant stories had slipped in as well. We’ve fixed that now, one of our filters wasnt working as well as we thought.

 Did some sprucing up one the site as well. Got rid of the Events page based on feedback, since it wasnt adding much value and was usually quite outdated. Got a lot of new ideas from family and friends as well. Will be putting all of that into the site over the next few weeks.

Had a great trip to Udwada. The town is sleepy as ever and we love it that way.

Will try and keep the blog more current. There are so many things we wanna write about from our trip.

Laterz ..


Coronation of Pahlavi Shah of Iran (1967)

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Recently we came across this very interesting archival footage on Google Video of the coronation of the Pahlavi Shah of Iran in 1967. While growing up in India my grandmother used to always talk about Iran and the Shah of Iran so it was really nice to see the coronation ceremony of the Shah of Iran. Albeit the footage is a bit old but it looks pretty good so we are sharing the video with you, hope you all enjoy it.


Pateti Mubarak to all our readers that follow the Kadimi Calendar

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Pateti Mubarak to all our Irani Zoroastrian readers.

Pateti also lovingly called Papeti in India … So what is Pateti/Papeti … we Zoroastrians follow one of three calendars, Shahenshahi (most common), Fasli(old Persian calendar),and Kadimi(Shahenshahi calendar lags Kadimi by a month - I know there’s more to it but that’s how I remember it). Kadimi calendar is followed by a number of Irani Zoroastrians in India and other parts of the world … and today is their Pateti.

For those of us who always wondered what pateti meant, I found out this morning and so wanted to share. The word “pateti” is derived from the Pazend word “patet” and means ‘repentance’. So Pateti is the occasion of offering patet prayers (Patet Pashemani in your prayer books) or the prayer of repentance and preparing to greet the new year with a clean conscience. Hence it falls one day before New Year and is in the month of March for Fasli’s and sometime in July for Kadimi’s and in August for Shahenshahi’s.

So I’m guessing Pateti Mubarak means, congratulations on clearing up your conscience and begining a brand new year. Now how many of us really do that on Pateti. Well I for one start today …


Kaevan Umrigar - Parsi Filmmaker in the making

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We recently read about and exchanged emails with a Parsi filmmaker Kaevan Umrigar, FTII graduate and currently based in India. Kaevan has a very interesting take on the community and though we’ve not seen his films yet (theyre in the mail) his writing and the synopsis of the films made for very interesting reading so we are eagerly looking forward to the films.

The most interesting of the lot for us was the one titled “The Last Parsis”, not only is it nostalgic and brings back memories of towns like Davier, Gholvad, Uran and Tarapore but it also gives us a peek into the future through hindsight (twisted I know). Some of these towns were teeming with Zoroastrians once and folks owned a lot of land and resources. Today they are a mere shadow of the past and in some way it speaks to me about the migrant nature of the Zoroastrian community. What we are seeing in Davier and Uran we might possibly see in Bombay and some other metros around the world ??maybe??

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Below are the links to the stories and we will write in more detail about them once we see the films. They make good reading as well.

Invisible Parsis: The Poor of a Prosperous Community

 Dadar Ormaj, maney jaldi bolaavo

www.geocities.com/naveak99/story4.html

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Zoroastrians Today - An interesting documentary shaping up

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Received an email today that took me to a documentary on Google Video, big deal huh. Well the reason it had my antennas up was becuase the documentary is being created by a budding filmmaker called Tenaz Dubash based in NY and talks about some of the most poignant questions for our community today.
Though the documentary is still a “work in progress” the preview was very interesting and had all my attention. It also featured short clips of Persepolis and some well known faces from the North American Z community talking on issues like numbers decline, conversion etc. This one is definitely going to be on my radar and I look forward to it being completed.
Its been a while since I last saw Wings of Fire so the appetite is definitely there …


Updated - Nude “THUS SPAKE ZARATHUSTRA” OR Nude Zarathushtra

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Nude “THUS SPAKE ZARATHUSTRA” OR Nude Zarathushtra … you decide.

I received an email this morning that indicated that some artist in Australia was using Zarathushtra as the theme for his sculpture. It seemed like a great idea, that someone was inspired by prophet Zarathushtra who established the Zoroastrian religion centuries ago and its the religion I belong to. However that joy was short lived when I found out that it was a nude statue displayed in the middle of some park in Melbourne Australia and named “Thus Spake Zarathustra”.

Without chewing any words or speaking around it, let me make this clear. I consider myself to be very open minded and the Zoroastrian community on the whole is very open minded and progressive as well, BUT THIS OFFENDS ME. The statue should be taken down by the city of Melbourne. There is a fine line between what’s considered art and what can be truly offending and this one definitely crosses it.

Here’s what the artist says on his website  

“To the Zoroastrian Community I would like to state that this sculpture is not a dipiction of the Prophet Zarathustra. My inspiration came from reading “THUS SPAKE ZARATHUSTRA” by Friedrich Nietzsche”
I dont agree with that explanation and feel that the artist is hiding under a thin sliver of abstraction. “THUS SPAKE ZARATHUSTRA” by Friedrich Nietzsche” was really Friedrich Nietzsche talking about himself so why not name the statue “Friedrich Nietzsche”.

We need to treat all religions with respect and Prophet Zarathustra who founded the Zoroastrian religion should be treated in the same light as Ram, Jesus, Mohamed and Buddha to name a few. This is not the first creation of art that has offended the religious sentiments of a particular community and I dont believe this will be the last. However since its related to something that is dear to me I would like to make my thoughts heard.

There are many who will say that you need to be open minded and liberal and take it in your stride, its only a statue by some artist maybe trying to stir up some fame and controversy for himself. Some will also say, it does not really change anything since the image of Prophet Zarathustra that we all have cannot be tarnished by this creation. There are also those who will say that there’s only a few hundred thousand of us scattered all over the world, so even if go on a protest we might not be heard.

To which I say, probably true but does not mean we lie low. It only took one person to stir up a non-violent movement that gave a billion people their freedom. We all live in a civilized world where there is freedom of speech and expression, so we have to be tolerant to offending creations. But that does not mean anything goes, a civilized society also has laws and provides ways and means for getting your voice heard and lodging protests.

I for one have decided to express my displeasure about this statue with the following sources.

<< Information from the orignal post deleted please read comments by Mr. Peter Schippenheyn  >>

Would love to get your thoughts on this as well.

 

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Original News article http://www.visitmorningtonpeninsula.org/news.asp
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Marrying a Parsi - what are the odds??

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For the longest time now all I read or heard about us Parsis was .. the Parsi population is shrinking, the Parsis are dying, are we doing enough about it, why dont Parsis have 5 kids each (5 kids!!), girls are marrying outside the community, boys are not studying or pursuing well paid careers, girls are more educated than boys, people in the baugs dont marry early, people outside the baugs marry non-parsis blah bla blah bla blaaaaah.

But unless a Parsi match drops from the sky, the odds are really high on finding one that you really like, anyways. There is always the organic - we meet, we love each other, we marry - but it always needs a catalyst like a common friend, a dance party, New Years eve party at DPC, meeting someone at a pub or at the gym, having relatives in a colony or baug that you visit often etc. There is also the question of conversion and offsprings from a parsi-nonparsi marriage but I will let that be for now and delve into it some other time.

So what are we looking at - roughly 70,000 Parsis on the Indian subcontinent (mostly in Bombay) and then roughly an equal number or less spread all over the world with pockets concentrated in North America, UK, Sing/HK/Aus/NZ and the Gulf. Now I know the picky few will point out that there are more Parsis and some will say the number is over inflated. But for my own satisfaction I will take this number at around 120,000 worldwide. The 2001 Census reveals that Parsi community in India, collectively, stands at 69,601 heads (33949 males and 35652 females) - down from 76,382 in 1991. Add to that the data point that < 30% of this population is in the age band of 25–35 years and a 1.07 M/F sex ratio. Dont ask me how I came up with these numbers, just mashed some India Census 2001 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_India age band numbers with the Parsi birth/death ratio numbers etc.

Bottom line is "Houston we have a problem". As a Parsi youth lets say in Mumbai (where a majority of Parsis still live) I have the pleasure of meeting, dating and mating from a pool of roughly 10,000 potential matches. Its somewhat worse in North America and horrible in places like Delhi or Madras. Phew < 10,000 potential matches .. thats less than 1/6th the population of Lakshadweep (a tiny island off the coast of India). Well enough with numbers, I guess we all get the point that compared to our other Hindu, Muslim, Christian brethren the odds are really high for a Parsi to even meet another Parsi of the same age and then you need to like them enough to marry them (which demolishes large swathes of whatever's left of the 10000 eligible )

Building more parsi colonies and protectionism is surely not the answer.

I think the answer lies in this wonderful medium called the web. Recently I've met more Parsi couples who have found their match thru the web. There was a time not so long ago, if you were to tell someone in the community that youre using the web to meet other Parsis for marriage maybe, they would either laugh it off, or say something like "ta to badho vaasi maal malech" or feel that you might have some problem or shortcoming that you cant find a match through the more traditional mediums.

So to all the "vaasi maal" comments I say "web par to bou chokho maal malech" you just need an open mind, some safeguards and know where to find it. There is this wonderful site some one recently forwarded to me www.zpeakerbox.narius.net/vb/. I feel that sites like these will be the breeding ground for future generation Parsis. Its a great initiative by some level headed youths that have found the right outlet. All parents especially of youths where the Parsi population is sparse, might want to hook them into things like zpeakerbox. Its a small bunch of youths running a grassroots chat forum and sharing experiences. Things like zpeakerbox make the odds feel lower and so more power to them.

There’s also the Zoroastrian Matrimonial Page and things like Parsi Matrimonials - Shaadi.com which nip away at the odds as well. These are more like virtual colonies of folks with common interests (finding a match). So instead of peeping out of your window at all the eligible parsi guys and gals in your corner of Tardeo, one can view them online and the world is your playing field.

Its not just the websites, its a combination of sites, chats, forums that are kinda like the lounges of the real world. You get to meet interesting people that you wouldnt have had met otherwise, you chat with them exchange thoughts, like some of em … hate some. This can go on for as long as you wish or are comfortable meeting the person in real life. However a word of caution, most anonymous entities on the web need to be treated with a ample dose of skepticism. A lot of them are overrated and intentionally misguiding, so if you really want to take the leap and meet such an anon entity in real life, take all kinds of safeguards (tell friends or family, meet in public on bright sunny days, carry a cell, meet on your terms and turf etc etc etc). Anyways before I start sounding like an ol’ fogie let me wrap up.

BTW, here’s a really interesting post I read on zpeakerbox that I would like to share with y’all .. watch out she claim’s to be Brad Pitt’s girlfriend though :-)